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June 19, 2019

Fake Cars Can Be A Big Problem In The Collector Car World

by Mike –

When a classic car model reaches a value level where creating a fake car can be profitable then dishonest people may take dishonest action by passing off a fake as a real car.

Barn Finds

The growth in the “barn find” industry sets up the possibility of fake cars being “discovered” and then sold as the real barn finds. This can be problematic if there are no reliable historical records from the manufacturer or there is not an organization like the SAAC or a program like Ferrari Classiche to verify authenticity.

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It is even more profitable when there is a significant car that is missing. The missing cars quite often are race cars that were destroyed or discarded when their racing careers were finished. A famous lost race car creates opportunities for unscrupulous people.

A barn find Mercedes 300 SL Gullwing with an alloy body sold in 2012 at the Gooding auction in Arizona for $4.2 million. The difference in value between an alloy body and a steel body 300 SL Gullwing is enough now that it certainly creates the profit potential to take the steel body off of a real 300SL Gullwing, install an alloy body, find a way to create a believable document trail and sell it for a multimillion dollar profit.

Mercedes 300SL Gullwing

This may not be possible because of the documentation of these cars but I wouldn’t be surprised if someone has thought about it.

1930 Bentley Speed Six – A Real Case

American lawyer Mercedes Brewer, 67, purchased the 1930 Bentley Speed Six from a UK dealer specializing in vintage cars. It was not until after she made the £425,000 ($642,150) purchase that she discovered the car had undergone some heavy modifications and had been altered to the point that the only remaining original feature of the Bentley was a small section of the chassis. The car didn’t even have the Speed Six engine.

Bentley Speed Six

The car dealership who sold her the car was ordered to pay £84,000 ($126,915) as the vehicle was deemed by the judge to be ‘no longer capable of being accurately described as a 1930 Bentley Speed Six car’.

From a news report dated October 2010.

Why would a dealer take advantage of a little old lady? – Money that’s why.

Ferrari

Analogous to this is the cloning of certain cars starting with a similar chassis and engine such as converting a Ferrari 250 GTE into a Ferrari 250 GTO. The difference between the “E” and the “O” in the model name is worth more than $35 million. I think it would be nearly impossible to pass off a fake GTO as a real car because there were only 39 real GTOs made and they are all known and accounted for.

I use this as an extreme example because an expert constructor could make a GTO that is identical to an original GTO except for the history records. A more realistic example would be converting that GTE into a Ferrari Spider California or some other Ferrari from the late 1950s or early 1960s. There is less profit but it is still substantial. The Ferrari Classiche program has the potential to eliminate the problem of fake Ferraris, for a price.

Ferrari 250 GTO racing

Ferrari 250 GTO

Bizzarrini

There are some non-authentic Bizzarrini models that have been for sale over the past few years. Because the chassis and suspension components are the same as the Iso Rivolta GT this presents the opportunity to build a replica Bizzarrini at a much lower cost than the value of a real one.

Bizzarrini GT 5300

Shelby GT350

It is easy to buy a 1965 or 1966 Mustang Fastback and put all of the Shelby parts on the new car and make it look and drive just like a real Shelby GT350.

Why isn’t this a big problem? Because all a buyer need do is note the Shelby VIN and the Ford VIN on the car in question and then contact the Shelby American Automobile Club (SAAC) and see if the two numbers match in their database, which they will check for free for members. If yes then it is a real car if no then it is a fake. The SAAC also publishes a World Registry that “protects the authenticity of all Shelbys and Cobras, and this directly reflects their overall values” according to the SAAC web site.

Shelby GT350

1965 Shelby GT350

What about the Shelby Cobra? It is also easy to make a fake Cobra as evidenced by all of the Cobra clones made over the past few decades – except for the SAAC history. A prudent buyer should check the VIN number and the car history with SAAC before buying.

Auto Union D-Type Silver Arrow – A Happy Ending

There is the well publicized case of Auto Union D-Type Silver Arrow that was up for auction by Christies in 2007 at the Retromobile exhibition in Paris. At the last minute they pulled the car because of some questions about its authenticity. It turned out to be a real Auto Union D-Type Silver Arrow but was chassis no. 19 and not no. 21, which won the French Grand Prix in 1939. This car was subsequently sold in Carmel, California by Bonhams in 2009.

Imagine how embarrassed everyone would have been, not to mention the financial problems, if No. 19 would have been sold as No. 21? This was an honest mistake but it proves the point of the difficulty of determining the history of a specific car. This race car is now in the Audi museum which is a great place for a car of this stature.

Auto Union D-Type Silver Arrow

Auto Union D-Type Silver Arrow

What About Clones?

A clone is a replica of a more valuable car that the creator represents as a replica, not an original. But what happens years later after several ownership changes? Is it possible that an unscrupulous owner could change the history of a clone car, that was originally presented honestly, and now present it as a real car? Yes, this could happen and probably has happened.

There can be many victims in a situation like this. The current owner could be someone who bought the car from a seller who also believed it to be real. When the current owner discovers he owns a clone instead of a real car he will likely seek compensation from the person he bought the car from, who is now also a victim. The legal issues can become complicated.

American Muscle Cars

There are many opportunities for fake cars in the American Muscle Car market because of the large number of cars made and the thriving after market for parts.

Corvette Sting Ray

Just about any model can be recreated (like the Shelby GT350) from a much less valuable model and sold as the real thing. This is easy because all of the parts are available and once the fake is created the only way to tell it from a real one is to investigate the history and documentation, study the VIN number and maybe hire an expert to provide an opinion.

Art

The art world has had a problem over the years with fake art. I remember reading that Salvador Dali was paid money to sign several blank canvases. While this is not as easy in the car world this does present a problem for a buyer, or seller, of Dali art.

An article from the New York Times had this to say about fake art,

The resale of fakes is a persistent and growing problem without a good solution, say collectors, dealers, artist estates and law enforcement agencies. Although the Federal Bureau of Investigation can seize forgeries in criminal cases, these represent only a tiny portion of the counterfeit art that is circulating.

“They churn through the market,” James Wynne, an F.B.I. special agent who handles art forgery cases, said of fakes.

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  1. Eric Verdon-Roe says

    I thought you might be interested in this link regarding the Bentley Speed Six http://www.stanleymann.com/stanley_mann_wins_appeal.html.
    While you highlight a very real problem, in this case many believed that Stanley Mann had described the car correctly. It cost him many thousands of pounds to defend the case and it nearly destroyed his business.

  2. It seems to me that a lot of Chevy SS clones are around, where the owners take a Chevelle, Nova, or Impala, and turn them into the SS versions, which is not that difficult to do. Some honest hobby restorers actually refer to them as SS tribute cars, and do it out of a labor of love, and because they cannot afford the actual versions. You sometimes see them at auctions on tv, and they are featured a lot in Hemmings Muscle Cars, as are the equivalent Mopar and Ford muscle cars, but I wonder how many “fakes” are sold without full disclosure at inflated prices.

  3. I remember first reading about the Auto Union in a news article in Autoweek describing a find in Latvia. It was destined for a scrap yard, if I recall correctly. Only the memories of the older Grand Prix patrons saved that one! Who would think to document anything when the mad dash to save it consumed most of the efforts? Now that the famous older Cuban cars are being found to be running Soviet Jeep engines and running gear do we realize the fine efforts to keep these old gems about on the roads are a que to the efforts of former block peoples to stay mobilized. Someday maybe somebody will showcase those who save a great car by locking in the completed product as is. No patina, just the saved project to highlight the economy and ingenuity of a people dealing with being separated from mainstream economies. I think that could be interesting…

  4. AUTO UNION Type D Christie`s 2007 was “an honest mistake”. Not quite: After having checked through the Christie`s catalogue before printing I noticed the mistake with the chassis-number and called Rupert Banner. I also told him that I got hard evidence of this very car. He asked me for the expenses for Christie’s if I came from Hannover (Northern Germany) to London to give a press conference to unveil the correct facts my quick reply was 5k Euro. This answer in writing was “Christie’s will not pay that!” After being withdrawn from the auction Christie’s published as the reason “Further investigation into the racing history of the car” which was wrong, too.

    Also: the car was not sold at the Pebble Beach auction some years later.

    Full story will be a chapter in my book to come “Verschleppt – gesucht – gefunden – Die AUTO UNION Grand Prix-Wagen ab 1945” (Deverted – most wanted – untraced The AUTO UNION Grand Prix cars from 1945)

    Martin Schroeder

  5. Reputation in a dealership is so important, because trust makes your customer return for your product. So most dealerships that sell high dollar cars will do their best to validate the historic accuracy of their claims in an effort to properly represent their offerings.

    That said, cars as investments have not required “provenance” until recently. Oral ownership chains, however, do NOT constitute accurate provenance and since most “Barn Find” or neglected cars often will have years of unknown conditions and storage impacting the originality. Even honest sellers very often hide early history modifications that appear “original” to most people (40 year old dust on a 50 year old weld looks original on a 60 year old car).

    The most important research one can do on a car is to understand the total picture that your car fits in. NEVER buy a car that appears to have an isolated history. A documented car will have sound evidence of being in this world with photos, period details, and papers that verify the history. If your car appears to have been “hidden” and “no one knows about it” – start looking for cross referenced information. If you can’t find it, chances are that car does not exist as an authentic part of history.

    • Great advice Raffi. I think we have all seen the car for sale or auction that has been”hidden” for years and no one knows about it.

      There was on of these at a recent Monterey auction that had a fantasy story description that only the seller could believe.

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